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Location: Newsgroups/0.verizon.discussion-general/
Subject:Re: news servers really slow?
From:knowone@knowhere.invalid
Posting date:04-01-2008
Content:
On 2008-01-04, Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:36:15 GMT, Tom wrote:
>
>> I'm on 1500/384 DSL, Speakeasy's speed test says so too, but pages load
>> SLOW.
>
> I figured out the low upstream affects downstream speeds.
> On my cable 512mb up, I would get around 800MB down, Now on my 2g up,
> I get 1850 down from the same ftp site regardless of time of day.
>
>> As more and more people get broadband access the servers
>> themselves are seeing bigger loads and slower speeds.
>
> Cannot argue that point, as stated.
>
>> Try accessing the National Weather Service site for an area having
>> severe weather, it will crawl.
>
> True, but that is kinda like Telephone Office swamp during an earth quake.
> Design was not for 100% usage. Not enough out/inbound trunks.
>
>> That's not a Verizon issue. And with more and more people
>> swapping movies at a couple of gigs a pop, the whole net is slowing down.
>
> Well, within the context of this thread, it is verizon's fault.
>
> You pop over to http://www.verizon.net/ then try
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/default.stm
> Why is web site in England faster. I would be fighting verizon traffic
> plus US traffic, plus overseas traffic, then finally bbc server traffic.
>
> Here, look at network delay to www.verizon.net
> $ traceroute -In 206.46.232.39
> traceroute to 206.46.232.39 (206.46.232.39), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
> 1 192.168.1.1 0.516 ms 0.328 ms 0.327 ms
> 2 71.170.124.1 7.654 ms 7.399 ms 7.546 ms
> 3 130.81.58.106 7.113 ms 7.414 ms 7.572 ms
> 4 130.81.20.157 10.263 ms 9.678 ms 10.239 ms
> 5 206.46.225.85 9.729 ms 10.227 ms 9.711 ms
> 6 206.46.225.18 10.252 ms 9.690 ms 10.243 ms
> 7 206.46.229.17 9.725 ms 10.222 ms 9.929 ms
> 8 206.46.232.39 9.981 ms 12.576 ms 9.516 ms
>
> Then bbc
> $ traceroute -In 212.58.226.79
> traceroute to 212.58.226.79 (212.58.226.79), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
> 1 192.168.1.1 0.572 ms 0.331 ms 0.316 ms
> 2 71.170.124.1 6.849 ms 7.251 ms 7.027 ms
> 3 130.81.58.106 6.742 ms 7.253 ms 8.212 ms
> 4 130.81.29.182 10.864 ms 10.238 ms 9.471 ms
> 5 152.63.0.173 9.631 ms 9.374 ms 10.374 ms
> 6 152.63.17.97 53.801 ms 54.774 ms 55.316 ms
> 7 152.63.22.229 54.126 ms 54.285 ms 54.844 ms
> 8 157.130.255.206 54.565 ms 56.949 ms 55.622 ms
> 9 80.91.250.166 55.855 ms 213.248.83.229 65.312 ms
> 10 80.91.249.250 122.457 ms 213.248.65.89 126.920 ms
> 11 80.91.249.78 128.854 ms 80.91.250.237 124.135 ms
> 12 213.248.79.166 124.641 ms 127.215 ms 124.894 ms
> 13 212.58.238.129 124.452 ms 126.925 ms 234.920 ms
> 14 212.58.239.58 124.036 ms 127.201 ms 122.032 ms
> 15 212.58.226.79 122.386 ms 121.887 ms 124.928 ms
>
> That is about 1 sec per packet.
>
> First problem is verizon's freaking flash content design, and guessing
> an under powered web server. :(
>
> As for the news server, the top end speed I see tells me it is throttled.
> We had the same problem on Comcast, bunch of us complained day in, day
> out, and they finally bought a higher throttle level from giganews.
>
> You seem to be running something like Windows XP.
> As I misunderstand it, the Micro$oft OS reserves some percentage of the
> network for it's background processes.

You misunderstand, indeed. See http://tinyurl.com/22urbr
( http://preview.tinyurl.com/22urbr )

Also http://www.theeldergeek.com/qos_manipulation.htm



>
> As an Oh, by the way, you might consider running privoxy
> and using firefox browser with the NoScript Add On.
> I do not know if you can have Ad Ons for Netscape.
>
> Both block lots of ad sites, and trap calls to download ads from sites.
> That way you do not waste your bandwidth downloading them.
>
> With malware using java for delivery, I would not be browsing the web
> with it enabled. Here just look at the sites containg malware for the
> RealPlayer exploits.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=uc8010+&hl=en&safe=off&start=10&sa=N
>
> More about it here
> Realplayer Vulnerability
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3810
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