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| Subject: | Re: DVD Recorders & Copy Protection |
| From: | Fred Ellis |
| Posting date: | 24-03-2006 |
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VinceH wrote:
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> At lease, I *assume* the explanation for this is copy protection.
>
> However, if so, in this case it's protecting the rights of the
> copyright owner from being infringed by the copyright owner.
>
> I bought a HD/DVD recorder the other day.
>
> I then persuaded the olds to buy a DVD recorder with built in
> digital decoder, to replace their /three/ boxes - VCR, DVD player
> and digibox. (Which frees up the digibox so, obviously, someone
> had to 'claim' it[1] ;-)
>
> The VCR is currently still in the loop, so I can transfer all
> their holiday vids onto DVD for them. (Then, before they pass it
> on to someone else, I'm going to borrow it to do the same with my
> videos - off-roading, etc. Assuming I can even find them!)
>
> While doing the first couple, it occurred to me that I might be
> able to make additional copies from the DVDs if they wanted to
> give copies to other members of the family who were also on that
> particular holiday with them. (Particularly certain events on
> holiday - my sister might like a copy of the time she was on stage
> with a knife thrower, for example). I guessed I'd be able to put
> the DVD in mine, copy it to the hard drive, then copy
> that to another DVD.
>
> Can I do that, though?
>
> No.
>
> It seems a DVD can only be copied to the hard drive if it's still
> seen as a recordable disc - which after it's been 'finalised' it
> no longer is. And because I recorded these discs on /their/
> recorder, I do have to finalise the discs before mine will even
> read them.
>
> My assumption is that this is a form of protection - to prevent
> people from copying discs for which they do not have a legal right
> to copy - but like all such mechanisms, it inconveniences people
> from using the machines to copy legitimately.
>
> I'm annoyed.
>
> There's a number of ways around it - such as recording them on
> mine in the first place (because it has a HD, which makes things
> much easier), and running two copies off - one to be finalised, so
> they can watch it in their machine, and one not to be finalised as
> a source of future copies. But it's still an inconvenience, and
> I'm still annoyed by it.
>
> And I'm not going to do it, because I can't really be arsed, not
> least because it means re-doing the ones I've already done, but
> also because it's not my material: I'm sure as hell not going to
> inconvenience myself for someone else.
>
> I'll take a practical approach with my own, though. ;-)
>
> [1] I still can't get a digital signal with my aerials, but
> nabbing the digital decoder for no readies seemed like a sensible
> thing to do; it's there for when I'm able to utilise it.
>
> --
> VinceH - http://www.softrock.co.uk/info/vinceh.html
What type of disk are you recording to. Is it a DVD-R or a DVD+R? Once
you 'Finalize' them they became a DVD-V disk same as a 'movie DVD' and
usually you can not copy them. What you need to use is a DVD-RAM disk.
With this disk you can copy and erase over and over up to 100,000
times. There is also the DVD-RW disk but I have never used one.
What I would do is record eveything to a DVD-RAM disk and use it to copy
to the recorder's harddrive. From there you can copy to a DVD-R disk to
make permanent copies to give to some one else. Keep the DVD-RAM disk
as your backup disk.
Fred Ellis
An American Cousin
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